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Does this look familiar?  Similar problems in New Orleans during Katrina.  DAMN the person who is condemning these prisoners to death.

Despite evacuation order, 1,000 remain in Galveston jail

GALVESTON — About 1,000 prisoners and a full jail staff remained in the Galveston County Jail on Galveston Island this morning, even as the island began to be battered by the onslaught of Hurricane Ike.

The reason for not evacuating the prisoners is a security issue and cannot be discussed, sheriff’s spokesman Maj. Ray Tuttoilmondo said.

“The prisoners and their safety and well-being are paramount and it will be handled,” Tuttoilmondo said.

Any decision to move the prisoners would be kept secret for security reasons, as happened before Hurricane Rita in 2005, he said.

“We did this during Rita and no one knew until it was absolutely done,” Tuttoilmondo said.

The prisoners were in the jail as of 10 a.m. today, leaving little time to transfer them to the mainland. Hurricane-force winds are expected to strike the island later today, making exit across the causeway to the mainland difficult.

Tuttoilmondo declined to say how many deputies were at the jail, but said a full jail staff and relief shifts remained on duty at the lockup at 57th Street and Broadway.

He also declined to discuss measures the Sheriff’s Office would take to make sure the prisoners and jail staff remained safe if a storm surge floods the jail.

The structure was specially designed to withstand hurricanes, Tuttoilmondo noted.

Forecasters have warned that a storm surge of as much as 20 feet is possible. That height would put storm water 3 feet over the top of the Galveston sea wall.

City Manager Steve LeBlanc said a 20-foot surge would leave the entire island under water except for a strip of land behind the sea wall.

Mayor Lyda Ann Thomas ordered a mandatory evacuation of Galveston on Thursday.

harvey.rice@chron.com

Tropical Storm Ike projected storm surge

Tropical Storm Ike projected storm surge

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35 Responses to “Who doesn’t get evacuated?”
  1. TJ says:

    Let’s pray that there really is a plan and they will be gone shortly.

  2. Al the Spook says:

    am back! will keep on Ike all day and evening except for scheduled guest posts.

  3. Al the Spook says:

    Ike update from NOAA:

  4. Gordon says:

    It is difficult to pay attention to much of anything else with the incredible monster bearing down on TX. Tx Bumz, be safe! (That’s an order, dammit!).

    Looks to me like the other current disaster (the McCain campaign) is in serious trouble. I mean when a Gooper loses Howie Kurtz, pack it in.

    I’m not seeing anyone pretending the Gibson / Palin interview was at all reassuring (in fact some wingnuts are attacking Charlie Gibson for being mean and partisan).

    Back to crossing my fingers for TX Bumz…

  5. muffin betsy says:

    Anyone know which areas near Houston are going to be hit? We have a prisoner in Denton we’re worried about.

  6. Gordon says:

    Bwahahahaha!

    McCain selects Palin for them, and they still manange to end up in a fight!

    Politico’s Mike Allen relates a CBN report that neither Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) nor Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) will appear at this weekend’s Values Voter Summit hosted by the Family Research Council, in Washington, DC. Palin was set to attend, but the campaign said “plans changed when they were alerted that she needed to go to Alaska Thursday to be with her son as he deployed to Iraq.” She offered to present a short video, but Summit president Tony Perkins rejected it, reportedly saying, “That’s not enough.”

  7. Al the Spook says:

    Originally Posted By muffin betsy at 1:15 pm
    Anyone know which areas near Houston are going to be hit? We have a prisoner in Denton we’re worried about.

    looks like the ship channel. but isn’t denton north of dallas? my mom used to teach there…?

  8. madmommy says:

    Hey y’all!! Our power went out this morning about 6ish, and finally came back up at noon. A couple bands of rain have come through, nothing major. It is very freaking windy though. So far no trees on my house, fingers crossed!!

    Damn, even we evac’d jails during Katrina and subsequent storms. Maybe those in charge are taking a page from the Bush playbook and implementing that famous compassionate conservatism we’ve heard so much about.

    I tried to comment on the last thread but the comment box was missing. It was in previous posts, and this one, obviously. Strange!!

  9. muffin betsy says:

    Originally Posted By Al the Spook at 1:20 pm

    Originally Posted By muffin betsy at 1:15 pm
    Anyone know which areas near Houston are going to be hit? We have a prisoner in Denton we’re worried about.

    looks like the ship channel. but isn’t denton north of dallas? my mom used to teach there…?

    My mistake. She is in the Henley Unit in Dayton, TX .

  10. Al the Spook says:

    Originally Posted By madmommy at 1:24 pm
    Hey y’all!! Our power went out this morning about 6ish, and finally came back up at noon. A couple bands of rain have come through, nothing major. It is very freaking windy though. So far no trees on my house, fingers crossed!!

    Damn, even we evac’d jails during Katrina and subsequent storms. Maybe those in charge are taking a page from the Bush playbook and implementing that famous compassionate conservatism we’ve heard so much about.

    I tried to comment on the last thread but the comment box was missing. It was in previous posts, and this one, obviously. Strange!!

    i ran into this as well. i think it was caused by the big shared items post at the top. 2.6.2 may have a few bugs to be ironed out…

  11. Al the Spook says:

    Originally Posted By muffin betsy at 1:37 pm

    Originally Posted By Al the Spook at 1:34 pm
    Muffin, your prisoner should be fine. Dayton is well inland. Here’s the google map entry for the facility:
    http://maps.google.com/maps?rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS291&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=map+of+7581+Highway+321,+Dayton,+Texas+77535&um=1&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=image

    actually she’s right in the middle of one of the worst areas.

    how? i have a chart but no map. can you give a linky?

  12. Al the Spook says:

    Originally Posted By muffin betsy at 1:40 pm
    refresh spooky

    the area is in a hurricane warning all right, but far enough inland to be safe from storm surge IMHO. and jails normally can withstand hurricane winds.

  13. peanutbutter says:

    @Al the Spook at 1:27 pm – Might be mac specific? No problems with a comment box in previous post that I can see??

  14. peanutbutter says:

    @Al the Spook at 1:47 pm – WIth the Galveston jail, I think the issue is more the water than the wind at this point :(

  15. Muffin, Dayton is close to where Mr. Gnome’s sister and family live. They evacuated to Dallas. That whole area of SE Texas is very flat and very wet on good days. Rice is a big crop. I wouldn’t worry too much – prisons are built pretty solidly. Flooding is going to be the main problem, but it rains so hard there so often that I am sure there are good moats, pumps and all the other things they need to keep the inmates and their keepers safe.

  16. madmommy says:

    Originally Posted By peanutbutter at 2:06 pm@Al the Spook at 1:27 pm – Might be mac specific? No problems with a comment box in previous post that I can see??

    PC running Vista with IE here. Didn’t think to flip to FF to see if the problem appeared there.

  17. Al the Spook says:

    programming note: as traffic is low, am shifting ct’s post to tomorrow and keeping this thread up as the hurricane approaches. if we get more comments will start new Ike thread.

    anyone in the area who needs to get a message out feel free to comment and we’ll see it gets where it needs to go.

  18. CTuttle1 says:

    @Al the Spook at 2:23 pm – Sure, just bump me for some old hurricane…! :p

  19. Al the Spook says:

    Originally Posted By CTuttle1 at 2:56 pm
    @Al the Spook at 2:23 pm – Sure, just bump me for some old hurricane…! :p

    sorry ’bout that :cry:

  20. muffin betsy says:

    CT, if you’d like, I can set you up on a concurrent thread today. Otherwise, tell me what time over the weekend is convenient for you.

  21. CTuttle1 says:

    @muffin betsy at 3:07 pm – It doesn’t matter to me! You might just want to dump that one entirely for one of my newer posts that I’m already working on!

  22. muffin betsy says:

    If ya haven’t been to CT’s site lately, his newest and best is up right here at the beach house.

    http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=2678

  23. Supporting evidence that Palin was fully aware that Wasilla charged victims of sexual assault: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/sarah-palin-instituted-ra_b_125833.html
    And that the change occurred on her watch. Previously victims were not charged.

  24. Gordon says:

    The most senior judge in Saudi Arabia has said it is permissible to kill the owners of satellite TV channels which broadcast immoral programmes.

    Hmmm, would his name be Arabic for “Scalia”?

  25. muffin betsy says:

    from CNN:

    Texas braces for Ike, deadly storm surge

    Fire destroys homes on Galveston Island, Texas, today as Ike-spawned floodwaters surge around them. (AP Photo)

    updated 34 minutes ago

    Texas braces for Ike, deadly storm surge

    Water pushed ashore by the approaching Hurricane Ike has already flooded neighborhoods in Galveston, Texas. In nearby Houston, some 200,000 have fled ahead of the hurricane. Ike’s storm surge could reach a deadly 22 feet, forecasters said. The center should make landfall early Saturday. developing story
  26. Gordon says:

    Originally Posted By Gnome de Plume at 3:42 pmSupporting evidence that Palin was fully aware that Wasilla charged victims of sexual assault: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-alperinsheriff/sarah-palin-instituted-ra_b_125833.html
    And that the change occurred on her watch. Previously victims were not charged.

    Oh, that is excellent. The story had already reached the MSM, Sarah had categorically denied it, and now the doc dump lights her pants on fire. And the underlying subject (sexual assaults) is sure to give it lots of coverage.

    Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm, I love the smell of Repiglicans self-destructing.

  27. muffin betsy says:

    I’m lying down for a nap. New post scheduled to pop at 5 central.

  28. Gordon says:

    We have subpoenas (or their authorization) in Alaska, including one for Todd.

  29. Al the Spook says:

    hey all. back finally. had to relocate. will be online at least an hour or so.

  30. Al the Spook says:

    Ike coverage at MSNBC:

    Ike’s potential impact
    The Department of Homeland Security provided this assessment of the potential impact of Hurricane Ike to NBC News on Friday:

    Storm surge
    • 572,000 people within storm surge area
    • 6 drinking water plants affected by storm surge
    • 34 wastewater treatment facilities affected by storm surge
    • 54 police stations, 89 fire stations and 32 ambulance services affected by storm surge
    • 10 hospitals with more than 10 beds affected by storm surge
    • 47 nursing homes affected by storm surge
    • 7 wire centers affected by storm surge
    • 140 electric power substations affected by storm surge
    • 48 non-nuclear generating units affected by surge
    • 10 industrial plants including oil refineries and chemical plants are co-located with 41 generators affected by storm surge

    Power failures
    • 5.2 million customers may lose power in Texas
    • 99 drinking water plants in outage area (only 14 plants serve more than 50,000)
    • More than 1,500 wastewater treatment facilities are in outage area
    • 799 police stations, 1,973 fire stations and 641 ambulance services within outage area
    • 256 hospitals with more than 50 beds within outage area
    • 1,263 Nursing Homes within electric power outage area

    Petroleum, natural gas
    • 95 percent of Gulf of Mexico oil and natural gas production suspended
    • 1.25 million barrels per day of oil production (6 percent) of U.S. petroleum demand
    • 6.9 billion cubic feet per day of natural gas production (11 percent of U.S. daily average natural gas demand)

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