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		<title>By: Texas Betsy</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=16093#comment-58257</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>new new new non=political post 2 flights up the stairs.</description>
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		<title>By: Pellora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pellora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I peeked - the new post isn&#039;t my coloring book pages just re-named.  I&#039;m not going to more *current events* because I&#039;m :sick: of the news.  Though the fact of the subject of the new post is a good thing, I don&#039;t much care right now and don&#039;t want to read about the *who* who hid shit. :panic:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I peeked &#8211; the new post isn&#8217;t my coloring book pages just re-named.  I&#8217;m not going to more *current events* because I&#8217;m <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sick.gif' alt=':sick:' class='wp-smiley' />  of the news.  Though the fact of the subject of the new post is a good thing, I don&#8217;t much care right now and don&#8217;t want to read about the *who* who hid shit. <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/dv_panic.gif' alt=':panic:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pellora</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=16093#comment-58254</link>
		<dc:creator>Pellora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-58249&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gordon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:
I wondered about that.  Stocks and trading is all gambling anyway, and being born and raised in a gambling state, well, I don&#039;t cotton to it at all and can smell it from a long way away.

I&#039;m wondering if it is an attempt to *game* the ... system... for lack of a different word.  You know, like the dot com shit.  Play the game, act serious, get people to go for your faint, and wham!  $$$ for some and not for others. 

Some serious stoopids around - idjits into ultimate idiocy!  Or as my grandma used to say 

A Fool and His Money are Soon Parted!    :lmao:  :rotfl:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ <a href="#comment-58249" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">gordon</a></b>:<br />
I wondered about that.  Stocks and trading is all gambling anyway, and being born and raised in a gambling state, well, I don&#8217;t cotton to it at all and can smell it from a long way away.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if it is an attempt to *game* the &#8230; system&#8230; for lack of a different word.  You know, like the dot com shit.  Play the game, act serious, get people to go for your faint, and wham!  $$$ for some and not for others. </p>
<p>Some serious stoopids around &#8211; idjits into ultimate idiocy!  Or as my grandma used to say </p>
<p>A Fool and His Money are Soon Parted!    <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/un_lmao.gif' alt=':lmao:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rotfl.gif' alt=':rotfl:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MM... You cursed the Jags...!  35-31 Colts with 5 and change left....!    :tantrum:</description>
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		<title>By: Pellora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pellora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-58248&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;madmommy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:
Forgot about the game  :oops:
I&#039;m trying to work, which has been a bit difficult while driving my parents around to various and sundry stuff.  The main roads are dry (well, depends, if it melts there is water on the road, which by middle of night is icy) mostly dry.  All the residential streets, except for the highly traveled ones are still one of these - packed icy snow, slush in various depths, two tracks down to pavement on an otherwise snowy packed icy roadway, clear with melt water that might be frozen.  And if someone is so fortunate to get stuck on a street, by the time they get themselves out or get help getting out, they have more often than not completely destroyed an otherwise passable street.  :panic:  We get sun, but not enough in one day to really melt the snow/ice.  And it refreezes at night.  I&#039;d *almost* prefer just plain cold no melted conditions.  *almost*  except it&#039;s too damn cold that way.   :(   I still haven&#039;t driven my Saturn coupe - using parents&#039; VUE, while Kidlet3 uses our VUE (it&#039;s really his car anyway... I took the one with the better gas mileage :wink:  so though I pay for gas for both right now, down the way a bit, I win!  

Okay - I guess I can go back to topic.  Which I posted, so I have no one to blame but myself :cry:

Howard Dean is really pissed that the insurance company &quot;regulation&quot;  (my word) was stripped in the Senate.  He hopes that such plus competition to rein in cost of premiums gets added in conference with House bill, but if not, he wants to &quot;kill the bill&quot; and start over.  He&#039;s pretty firm on this it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ <a href="#comment-58248" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">madmommy</a></b>:<br />
Forgot about the game  <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/yahoo_blush.gif' alt=':oops:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;m trying to work, which has been a bit difficult while driving my parents around to various and sundry stuff.  The main roads are dry (well, depends, if it melts there is water on the road, which by middle of night is icy) mostly dry.  All the residential streets, except for the highly traveled ones are still one of these &#8211; packed icy snow, slush in various depths, two tracks down to pavement on an otherwise snowy packed icy roadway, clear with melt water that might be frozen.  And if someone is so fortunate to get stuck on a street, by the time they get themselves out or get help getting out, they have more often than not completely destroyed an otherwise passable street.  <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/dv_panic.gif' alt=':panic:' class='wp-smiley' />   We get sun, but not enough in one day to really melt the snow/ice.  And it refreezes at night.  I&#8217;d *almost* prefer just plain cold no melted conditions.  *almost*  except it&#8217;s too damn cold that way.   <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/yahoo_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />    I still haven&#8217;t driven my Saturn coupe &#8211; using parents&#8217; VUE, while Kidlet3 uses our VUE (it&#8217;s really his car anyway&#8230; I took the one with the better gas mileage <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/un_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' />   so though I pay for gas for both right now, down the way a bit, I win!  </p>
<p>Okay &#8211; I guess I can go back to topic.  Which I posted, so I have no one to blame but myself <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/yahoo_sob.gif' alt=':cry:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Howard Dean is really pissed that the insurance company &#8220;regulation&#8221;  (my word) was stripped in the Senate.  He hopes that such plus competition to rein in cost of premiums gets added in conference with House bill, but if not, he wants to &#8220;kill the bill&#8221; and start over.  He&#8217;s pretty firm on this it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Betsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gnome there&#039;s no healthcare in the upstairs thread.</description>
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		<title>By: gordon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-58242&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pellora&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:
No it doesn&#039;t.

I worked for a Fortune 500 company who consistently got &quot;buy&quot; ratings from all of the investment analysts, when anybody who actually worked there could have told you it was &quot;sell&quot;. Then I made a good bit of cash money off the dot com boom (I did unix and sockets as well as almost anyone), but I knew as well as anyone in the business that it was 99% a crock of shit. (Alas, an ex spent all that cash before it all went bust, which I predicted, and then she spent a bunch more after that that we didn&#039;t have.)

If the stock market was not subject to idiocy, we would never have a crash. Really.

Stock market analysts regard the &quot;public option&quot; (or some really vague analogue, like buy-into-Medicare-at-55) as the scent of doom. They&#039;re kind of like a certain dinosaur in their incomparable olfactory discernment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ <a href="#comment-58242" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">Pellora</a></b>:<br />
No it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I worked for a Fortune 500 company who consistently got &#8220;buy&#8221; ratings from all of the investment analysts, when anybody who actually worked there could have told you it was &#8220;sell&#8221;. Then I made a good bit of cash money off the dot com boom (I did unix and sockets as well as almost anyone), but I knew as well as anyone in the business that it was 99% a crock of shit. (Alas, an ex spent all that cash before it all went bust, which I predicted, and then she spent a bunch more after that that we didn&#8217;t have.)</p>
<p>If the stock market was not subject to idiocy, we would never have a crash. Really.</p>
<p>Stock market analysts regard the &#8220;public option&#8221; (or some really vague analogue, like buy-into-Medicare-at-55) as the scent of doom. They&#8217;re kind of like a certain dinosaur in their incomparable olfactory discernment.</p>
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		<title>By: madmommy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-58246&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gnome de plume&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:

Orchid conference calls? Wow...ain&#039;t technology wonderful?? 

For anyone who&#039;s interested, the Colts are losing to the Jaguars with 8 minutes left in the game. They&#039;re only down by 4 points, and 8 minutes is an eternity in Peyton&#039;s world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ <a href="#comment-58246" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">gnome de plume</a></b>:</p>
<p>Orchid conference calls? Wow&#8230;ain&#8217;t technology wonderful?? </p>
<p>For anyone who&#8217;s interested, the Colts are losing to the Jaguars with 8 minutes left in the game. They&#8217;re only down by 4 points, and 8 minutes is an eternity in Peyton&#8217;s world.</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-58243&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gordon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;CTuttle wrote:
“Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good”
It’s not even good…!  

Then why are they fighting it??
No “uncle” this time. It’s good, or it’s bad. If it’s bad, WHY ARE THEY FIGHTING IT?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;b&gt;They&#039;re still not happy...!&lt;/b&gt;

What part of that did you not understand when I first said it...??? :crazy:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="#comment-58243" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">gordon</a></b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>CTuttle wrote:<br />
“Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good”<br />
It’s not even good…!  </p>
<p>Then why are they fighting it??<br />
No “uncle” this time. It’s good, or it’s bad. If it’s bad, WHY ARE THEY FIGHTING IT?
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<p><b>They&#8217;re still not happy&#8230;!</b></p>
<p>What part of that did you not understand when I first said it&#8230;??? <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/un_crazy.gif' alt=':crazy:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gnome de plume</title>
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		<dc:creator>gnome de plume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am virtually :gardening:  :planting: on an orchid speaker circuit conference call.  :love:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://lh6.ggpht.com/_erxnF0b-EJ0/Syr5tBOXreI/AAAAAAAABCQ/sCrOAfYLIkg/s400/Steve%27s%20blooms%2012-17-09%20002.JPG&quot; alt &quot;&quot;/&gt;

I&#039;m ignoring the healthcare fight :pbbt:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am virtually <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/dv_gardening.gif' alt=':gardening:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/dv_planting.gif' alt=':planting:' class='wp-smiley' />  on an orchid speaker circuit conference call.  <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/un_love.gif' alt=':love:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_erxnF0b-EJ0/Syr5tBOXreI/AAAAAAAABCQ/sCrOAfYLIkg/s400/Steve%27s%20blooms%2012-17-09%20002.JPG" alt ""/></p>
<p>I&#8217;m ignoring the healthcare fight <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/un_pbbt.gif' alt=':pbbt:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pellora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pellora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Howard Dean is (right now anyway) on Montel Williams radio show.  I&#039;m sure this is delayed air though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Howard Dean is (right now anyway) on Montel Williams radio show.  I&#8217;m sure this is delayed air though.</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-58241&quot; title=&quot;Go to comment of this author&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gordon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:
...Oh, you’re taking your cues from that wet place, aren’t you? You know, the place that killed Carolyn Kennedy so we could have Kristen Gillibrand?... 

 Where did that come from...?  I glean some from FDL, but, by no means do I &#039;take my cues&#039; from &#039;em...!!!  There&#039;s a whole lot more out there that I utilize...  Do you ever read my cites...  On occasion, I&#039;ll cite FDL...!     :tinfoil:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ <a href="#comment-58241" title="Go to comment of this author" rel="nofollow">gordon</a></b>:<br />
&#8230;Oh, you’re taking your cues from that wet place, aren’t you? You know, the place that killed Carolyn Kennedy so we could have Kristen Gillibrand?&#8230; </p>
<p> Where did that come from&#8230;?  I glean some from FDL, but, by no means do I &#8216;take my cues&#8217; from &#8216;em&#8230;!!!  There&#8217;s a whole lot more out there that I utilize&#8230;  Do you ever read my cites&#8230;  On occasion, I&#8217;ll cite FDL&#8230;!     <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/un_tinfoil.gif' alt=':tinfoil:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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