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		<title>By: Texas Betsy</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=11522#comment-43569</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pellora, is that music thread ready for publication?  Can we set it for Thursday night?  I&#039;ll be out then.  If not, let me know when.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pellora, is that music thread ready for publication?  Can we set it for Thursday night?  I&#8217;ll be out then.  If not, let me know when.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Betsy</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=11522#comment-43567</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>booze????  here????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>booze????  here????</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=11522#comment-43565</link>
		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Texas Betsy&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;larue wrote:

All Star Game&#039;s starting. Intro of the players! See ya Bumz!
Hey EDP, thanks for stopping in recently . . . door&#039;s always open!
And Betsy ALWAYS leaves the keys to the bar on the table!!!

I&#039;m HERE! And those are the keys to the broom closet!

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And that&#039;s where you hide the booze!!! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Texas Betsy</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>larue wrote:</p>
<p>All Star Game&#8217;s starting. Intro of the players! See ya Bumz!<br />
Hey EDP, thanks for stopping in recently . . . door&#8217;s always open!<br />
And Betsy ALWAYS leaves the keys to the bar on the table!!!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m HERE! And those are the keys to the broom closet!</p>
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<p>And that&#8217;s where you hide the booze!!! <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/yahoo_grin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Texas Betsy</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=11522#comment-43563</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey pellora!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey pellora!</p>
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		<title>By: pellora</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=11522#comment-43560</link>
		<dc:creator>pellora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Texas Betsy&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m gonna scream!  I hate these people!

Anti-Immigrant Forces Target US-Born Children
from t r u t h o u t
The measure would end public benefits to illegal residents, challenge the citizenship of their US-born children, cut welfare payments to those children and impose new birth certificate requirements.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;


MAKE IT RETROACTIVE and see who is voting or sponsoring this that would end up illegit because their grandparents or something did the same thing.  Lots of people came here and  had kids who are now American citizens - Maybe we can get rid of a lot of Goopers!   :lmao:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Texas Betsy</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m gonna scream!  I hate these people!</p>
<p>Anti-Immigrant Forces Target US-Born Children<br />
from t r u t h o u t<br />
The measure would end public benefits to illegal residents, challenge the citizenship of their US-born children, cut welfare payments to those children and impose new birth certificate requirements.</p>
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<p>MAKE IT RETROACTIVE and see who is voting or sponsoring this that would end up illegit because their grandparents or something did the same thing.  Lots of people came here and  had kids who are now American citizens &#8211; Maybe we can get rid of a lot of Goopers!   <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/un_lmao.gif' alt=':lmao:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Texas Betsy</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=11522#comment-43559</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>new post upstairs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>new post upstairs</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Dr. Puma</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=11522#comment-43558</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Dr. Puma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Texas Betsy&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;good night Gordon.
EDP, do you have a log-in? Care to pull up a typewriter and share your wisdom with us at some point?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, I haven&#039;t. I&#039;ve always been nervous about being asked to join the fun on that level, but I&#039;ll think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Texas Betsy</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>good night Gordon.<br />
EDP, do you have a log-in? Care to pull up a typewriter and share your wisdom with us at some point?</p></blockquote>
<p>No, I haven&#8217;t. I&#8217;ve always been nervous about being asked to join the fun on that level, but I&#8217;ll think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Dr. Puma</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=11522#comment-43557</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Dr. Puma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Texas Betsy&lt;/b&gt;:

It means that Bill Day has run out of ideas.  :nyah:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ Texas Betsy</b>:</p>
<p>It means that Bill Day has run out of ideas.  <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/un_nyah.gif' alt=':nyah:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Texas Betsy</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=11522#comment-43556</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does this cartoon mean?

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.cagle.com/working/090714/billday.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does this cartoon mean?</p>
<p><img src="http://www.cagle.com/working/090714/billday.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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		<title>By: Texas Betsy</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=11522#comment-43555</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good night Gordon.

EDP, do you have a log-in?  Care to pull up a typewriter and share your wisdom with us at some point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good night Gordon.</p>
<p>EDP, do you have a log-in?  Care to pull up a typewriter and share your wisdom with us at some point?</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Dr. Puma</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=11522#comment-43554</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Dr. Puma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;gordon&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The sooner the followers realize that their leaders are in it for the money, the sooner they&#039;ll go back to hair-shirts, or self-flagellation or whatever. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

If they learn like the anti-abortion crowd (and many of them are probably &lt;i&gt;part of&lt;/i&gt; the anti-abortion crowd), that could take centuries.  :exhausted:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>gordon</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>The sooner the followers realize that their leaders are in it for the money, the sooner they&#8217;ll go back to hair-shirts, or self-flagellation or whatever. </p></blockquote>
<p>If they learn like the anti-abortion crowd (and many of them are probably <i>part of</i> the anti-abortion crowd), that could take centuries.  <img src='http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/dv_exhausted2.gif' alt=':exhausted:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gordon</title>
		<link>http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/?p=11522#comment-43553</link>
		<dc:creator>gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and from downstairs -

Larue, when they&#039;re talking about percent of income vs premiums, it has to be on the same period. So annual income, annual premiums.

If you&#039;re at 133% of poverty level, you get Medicaid for free. If you&#039;re at 4x poverty level, you can pay for Medicare at their cost (at &lt;i&gt;least&lt;/i&gt; a 30% discount on the premiums a large group gets charged for similar coverage). So in between, you pay for Medicare coverage (which gives you a lot more choices than Medicaid) roughly proportional to where you are between 133% and 400% of poverty line.

OK, I&#039;m out for the night. As long as a mansquito doesn&#039;t get me, I&#039;ll see you tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and from downstairs -</p>
<p>Larue, when they&#8217;re talking about percent of income vs premiums, it has to be on the same period. So annual income, annual premiums.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re at 133% of poverty level, you get Medicaid for free. If you&#8217;re at 4x poverty level, you can pay for Medicare at their cost (at <i>least</i> a 30% discount on the premiums a large group gets charged for similar coverage). So in between, you pay for Medicare coverage (which gives you a lot more choices than Medicaid) roughly proportional to where you are between 133% and 400% of poverty line.</p>
<p>OK, I&#8217;m out for the night. As long as a mansquito doesn&#8217;t get me, I&#8217;ll see you tomorrow.</p>
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